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Following the AGM of the CJC and abiding by the Constitution of the CJC, each year the Chair of the Sub Committee is rotated between PCC and CCC. Cllr. Gwyn Evans was proposed and elected as Chair. Cllr. Glyn Preston was proposed and elected as Vice Chair. The Chair and Vice Chair formally thanked the Committee for the nominations.
The Chair welcomed everyone to the meeting.
Apologies for absence were received from: • Councillor Adrian Jones • Councillor Beverley Baynham • Councillor Jeremy Pugh • Councillor John Erfyl Roberts • Councillor Maldwyn Lewis • Councillor Rhodri Davies • Carwyn Jones-Evans • Duncan Hall • Eifion Evans • Nicola Williams
There were no declarations of interest.
The minutes were proposed as correct by Councillor Carl Worrall and seconded by Councillor Glyn Preston. There were no objections, and no items covered under Matters Arising that were not on the agenda. The Vice Chair noted that at the last meeting a clear direction of travel for the RTP had been requested, and this had been provided. The Chair noted the high level of detail in the papers that had been circulated and the progress that had been made.
AE took the meeting through her update report on the work to deliver the Regional Transport Plan. The decision sought of the Committee was to note the contents of the report and provide any comments where appropriate. It was noted that the presentation would be in two parts. The first part was on the documents that had gone before both the CJC Transport Subcommittee and the full CJC for approval, and were therefore within the public domain. The second part would be in regard to the Regional Transport Plan and Regional Transport Delivery Plan, which were exempt items because they had not yet been brought before the CJC Transport Subcommittee or main Committee for discussion. It is a requirement of Welsh Government that the CJC produce a Regional Transport Plan on behalf of Ceredigion and Powys County Councils. This plan will sit alongside a suite of documents including the Future Wales National Plan and the Wales Infrastructure Investment Plan, and there are cross-cutting themes of equality, decarbonisation, integrated journey planning and rurality. The RTP will focus on the key priorities from the Welsh Transport Strategy’s vision, together with the hierarchical structure that WG have put in that walking and cycling comes first, with public transport, low emission vehicles and other modes lower down, and that 45% of journeys undertaken by 2040 need to be made by public transport. Within that context, we are required to follow the Five Ways of Working, as set out in the Well-being and Future Generations (Wales) Act. The Plan builds upon and does not duplicate the consultation and engagement which has been undertaken quite extensively over the past five years around Llwybr Newydd, the Wales Transport Strategy, the Net Zero Strategic Plan, and the local Wellbeing Plans – we have a lot of information from those about what the public think, what they want and what needs to happen. A set timeline was provided by WG, and a number of tasks were undertaken within that timeline, including engagement with WG on a draft Plan, which included some delays due to WG requiring us to undertake more work. We aim to have a final Plan by May 2025 and seek approval from WG by June 2025. To achieve this, we needed to undertake a Case for Change, an Engagement Plan, The RTP itself, including Consultation Report, Delivery Plan (RTDP), Integrated Wellbeing Appraisal including SEA and high-level Habitats Regulation Screening, and a Monitoring and Evaluation Plan. The following documents had been circulated in the publicly available pack of meeting papers: • Appendix 1 – Mid Wales Regional Transport Plan Implementation Plan. • Appendix 2 – Mid Wales Regional Transport Plan Case for Change. • Appendix 3 – Mid Wales Regional Transport Plan Engagement Plan. • Appendix 4 – Mid Wales CJC Integrated Impact Assessment. Working with user stakeholders , a number of topics were considered to come forward as policies and how we bring these together. Work was done with Local Authority Officers to understand what is achievable for the two Local Authorities and what requirements we want from central government in order to connect everything together. Councillor CKW referred to Beguildy Ward, which is referenced as being the second most deprived ward area in Wales, which has no Active Travel provision and only just got a through bus service last September. If anyone wished to come and visit for a case study, they would be welcome. EP noted that, in order for us to seek the required funding, we need to meet the WG’s timescales, because – rather than the funding coming to individual Authorities as had been the case – in future years it would be coming through to the CJC, supporting the RTP and its delivery. The Vice Chair questioned whether the level of investment we realistically expect to receive from WG would be enough to achieve the modal shift referenced in the report. AE noted that it is a 5-year plan, and the objectives are long term objectives that will only be achieved over sustained change over the coming years, and this is a commencement of that process. Councillor CKW noted the discrepancy between the funding received by Mid Wales and the greater amount given to other areas. AE noted that this was based on population among other things, and it is a position that we have consistently challenged over the years. EP stated that there is lobbying ongoing through various avenues with WG in regard to the level of support that is needed to fulfil the ambition and requirements. The Chair noted that the number of tourists in the summer period is very high, but is not reflected in those population based criteria on which the allocation of funding to the region is based.
There was no other business.
No date had been set at this moment in time. Arrangements for a further meeting would be based upon further knowledge and considerations in relation to the public consultation on the Regional Transport Plan.
It was proposed that the sub-committee enter into a private session for Item 9: “To receive and consider the Draft Regional Transport Plan and Appendices.” Proposed by: Councillor Glyn Preston Seconded by: Councillor Carl Worrall A vote was taken. All were in favour. The following Appendices are exempt from publication because they contain information of the kind described in paragraphs 14 (information relating to the financial or business affairs of any particular person) and 21 (public interest test) of parts 4 and 5 of Schedule 12A to the Local Government Act 1972 and in all the circumstances of the case the public interest in maintaining the exemption outweighs the public interest in disclosing the information. • Appendix 5 – Draft Regional Transport Plan • Appendix 6 – Draft Regional Transport Delivery Plan
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