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RESOLVED- That the minutes of the Planning Committee held on 11 September 2024 be approved and signed as a correct record.
RESOLVED: That consideration of the application be deferred until the December Planning Committee.
RESOLVED: (a) That the Planning Committee be minded to grant conditional planning permission. (b) That, in accordance with approved procedure, the application be referred back to the next meeting of the Planning Committee for further consideration, as the resolution was contrary to officers’ recommendation. NOTE: Councillor Austin Roberts declared a personal interest in the above item. As the interest was not considered prejudicial, Councillor Roberts remained in the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed.
RESOLVED:- (a) That the Planning Committee be minded to grant conditional planning permission, subject to conditions highlighted above. (b) That the Development and Building Control Manager be authorised to determine the application under delegation. Note: Councillor Gwennol Ellis declared a personal interest in the above item. As the interest was not considered prejudicial Councillor Ellis remained in the meeting and took part in the debate.
RESOLVED: (a) That the Planning Committee be minded to grant conditional planning permission. (b) That, in accordance with approved procedure, the application be referred back to the next meeting of the Planning Committee for further consideration, as the resolution was contrary to officers’ recommendation.
RESOLVED:- (a) That the Planning Committee be minded to grant conditional planning permission. (b) That the Development and Building Control Manager be authorised to determine the application under delegation. Councillors Ifor Lloyd and Chris Cater, declared a personal interest in the above item. As the interest was considered prejudicial Councillors Lloyd and Cater left the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed. Councillor Gwennol Ellis declared a personal interest in the above item. As the interest was not considered prejudicial Councillor Ellis remained in the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed. In the interest of transparency, the Solicitor, Rachael Jones, declared a personal interest in the above item. As the interest was considered prejudicial Ms Jones left the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed and Matthew Georgiou (Head of Law and Governance) took over proceedings for this item only.
RESOLVED: (a) That the Planning Committee be minded to grant conditional planning permission. (b) That, in accordance with approved procedure, the application be referred back to the next meeting of the Planning Committee for further consideration, as the resolution was contrary to officers’ recommendation. Note: Councillor Nia Owen declared a personal interest in the above item. As the interest was considered prejudicial Councillor Owen left the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed. Note: Councillor Aaron Wynne, who had registered to speak in relation to the application, declared a personal interest in the above item. As Councillor Wynne was not a Member of the Planning Committee, the interest was not considered prejudicial, therefore, Councillor Wynne was able to speak as Local Member in regards to the application.
RESOLVED:- (a) That the Planning Committee be minded to grant conditional planning permission. (b) That the Development and Building Control Manager be authorised to determine the application under delegation. Note: Councillors Jo Nuttall and David Carr declared a personal interest in the above item. As the interest was considered prejudicial Councillor Nuttall and Carr left the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed.
RESOLVED: (a) That the Planning Committee be minded to grant conditional planning permission. (b) That, in accordance with approved procedure, the application be referred back to the next meeting of the Planning Committee for further consideration, as the resolution was contrary to officers’ recommendation.
Apologies for absence were received from Councillor Mandy Hawkins and Paula Jones (Development and Building Control Manager).
Note: Councillor Jo Nuttall declared a personal interest in Agenda item 6(d) - Code Ref: 0/51802 - The Picture House, 24-26 Princes Drive, Colwyn Bay, Conwy, LL29 8LA as she is Member of the Local Area Forum – Central and had taken part in discussion surrounding the application. As the interest was considered prejudicial Councillor Nuttall left the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed. Note: Councillor David Carr declared a personal interest in in Agenda item 6(d) - Code Ref: 0/51802 - The Picture House, 24-26 Princes Drive, Colwyn Bay, Conwy, LL29 8LA as he is a Member of the Local Area Forum – Central and had taken part in discussion surrounding the application.. As the interest was considered prejudicial Councillor Carr left the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed. Councillor Chris Cater declared a personal interest in Agenda item 6(a) - Code Ref: 0/51657 - Ysgol y Creuddyn, Derwen Lane, Penrhyn Bay, Llandudno, Conwy, LL30 3LB as he is an appointed Local Education Authority (LEA) School Governor. As the interest was considered prejudicial Councillor Cater left the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed. Councillor Ifor Lloyd declared a personal interest in Agenda item 6(a) - Code Ref: 0/51657 - Ysgol y Creuddyn, Derwen Lane, Penrhyn Bay, Llandudno, Conwy, as his children attended the school. As the interest was considered prejudicial Councillor Lloyd left the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed. Councillor Gwennol Ellis declared a personal interest in Agenda item 6(a) - Code Ref: 0/51657 - Ysgol y Creuddyn, Derwen Lane, Penrhyn Bay, Llandudno, Conwy as a relative worked at the school. As the interest was not considered prejudicial Councillor Ellis remained in the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed. Councillor Gwennol Ellis declared a personal interest in Agenda item 5(c) - Code Ref: 0/51739 - Go Kart Race Track, Glan y Gors, Cerrigydrudion (A5t) Conwy, LL21 0RU, as her daughter worked at the venue approximately a decade ago. As the interest was not considered prejudicial Councillor Ellis remained in the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed. Councillor Nia Owen declared a personal interest in Agenda item 6 (c) – Code Ref: 0/51716 - 23 Station Road, Llanrwst, Conwy, LL26 0BT as she had predetermined the application. As the interest was considered prejudicial Councillor Owen left the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed. Councillor Austin Roberts declared a personal interest in Agenda item 5(b) - Code Ref: 0/51496 - Proposed pod and associated works for holiday use. Ty Du, Ffordd Cennin Cottage, Llanbedr y Cennin, Conwy, LL32 8JA as the applicant's uncle was a former neighbour. As the interest was not considered prejudicial, Councillor Roberts remained in the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed. Councillor Aaron Wynne, who had registered to speak in relation to the application, declared a personal interest in Agenda item 6 (c) – Code Ref: 0/51716 - 23 Station Road, Llanrwst, Conwy, LL26 0BT as a relative worked for the applicant. As Councillor Wynne was not a Member of the Planning Committee the interest was not considered prejudicial, therefore, Councillor Wynne was able to speak in support of the application. In the interest of transparency, the Solicitor, Rachael Jones, declared a personal interest in Agenda item 6(a) - Code Ref: 0/51657 - Ysgol y Creuddyn, Derwen Lane, Penrhyn Bay, Llandudno, Conwy as she has a personal association with someone, who had submitted representations in regards to the application. As the interest was considered prejudicial Ms Jones left the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed and Matthew Georgiou (Head of Law and Governance) took over proceedings for this item only.
None reported.
Decision as recorded
RESOLVED- That the minutes of the Planning Committee held on 11 September 2024 be approved and signed as a correct record.
The minutes of the Planning Committee held on 11 September 2024 were submitted for approval. RESOLVED- That the minutes of the Planning Committee held on 11 September 2024 be approved and signed as a correct record.
Decision as recorded
RESOLVED: That consideration of the application be deferred until the December Planning Committee.
Ms Lauren Eaton-Jones (joint applicant) spoke in support of the application, together with Councillor Cathy Augustine (Local Member for Penmaenmawr Ward). Further to a site inspection, an addendum to the report was presented, highlighting a correction to the Committee report - the total number of proposed affordable housing should read ‘20’. Discussion arose regarding housing demand in the area and the possibility of neighbouring land forming part of the site to enable a suitable waste turning area. In response, the Highways Officer advised that, the Highways Authority believed a solution could be reached, subject to further discussion with the applicant. Whist some Members were supportive of the application, the majority of Members supported a deferral to enable a satisfactory resolution in respect of waste collection proposals and highway safety. In response, the Principal Planning Officer advised that, in order to allow for sufficient time to determine the waste collection issues, an extension to the determination date to the December, 2024 Planning Committee would be advisable. RESOLVED: That consideration of the application be deferred until the December Planning Committee.
Decision as recorded
RESOLVED: (a) That the Planning Committee be minded to grant conditional planning permission. (b) That, in accordance with approved procedure, the application be referred back to the next meeting of the Planning Committee for further consideration, as the resolution was contrary to officers’ recommendation. NOTE: Councillor Austin Roberts declared a personal interest in the above item. As the interest was not considered prejudicial, Councillor Roberts remained in the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed.
The application was deferred from the 14 August, 2024 Planning Committee (Minute 198(b) refers) to enable the submission of additional information. An addendum to the report was presented, indicating the submission of a Business Plan and Financial Plan (the latter had been submitted on a confidential basis), however, a summary of the Business Plan was provided within the addendum. Officers advised that the Business Plan and Financial Plan was insufficient justification for the proposed glamping pod for the following reasons: • The Business Plan stated that the glamping enterprise would form part of the applicant’s sole trader business. The information failed to explain how it would support the existing farm enterprise at Tyddyn Coed. • Limited information had been provided as to how the proposal would assist the existing business at Tyddyn Coed, other than to employ an additional worker and maintain flock and herd sizes. • The financial information did not relate to the existing business at Tyddyn Coed, it related to the applicant’s existing contracting business. In addition, the information related to turnover for the previous year and was unclear as to what it related to. Whilst some Members supported the officers’ recommendation to refuse planning permission, following a vote, and contrary to the officers’ recommendation, the majority of Members were supportive of the application and were minded to grant conditional planning permission on the following grounds: · The proposal would help the rural economy · The number of pods was limited to one · The proposal would contribute to the sustainability of rural communities in accordance with Technical Advice Note (TAN) 6 · The proposal was in accordance with the Wellbeing of Future Generations (Wales) Act 2015, as it contributed to objectives regarding resilience, cohesive communities and the Welsh language As the proposal was contrary to policy, Members were informed that the application would be referred back to the next Planning Committee meeting for further consideration. RESOLVED: (a) That the Planning Committee be minded to grant conditional planning permission. (b) That, in accordance with approved procedure, the application be referred back to the next meeting of the Planning Committee for further consideration, as the resolution was contrary to officers’ recommendation. NOTE: Councillor Austin Roberts declared a personal interest in the above item. As the interest was not considered prejudicial, Councillor Roberts remained in the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed.
Decision as recorded
RESOLVED:- (a) That the Planning Committee be minded to grant conditional planning permission, subject to conditions highlighted above. (b) That the Development and Building Control Manager be authorised to determine the application under delegation. Note: Councillor Gwennol Ellis declared a personal interest in the above item. As the interest was not considered prejudicial Councillor Ellis remained in the meeting and took part in the debate.
The application was deferred from the 11 September, 2024 Planning Committee (Minute 268(ii) refers) as the resolution was contrary to the Officer recommendation. An addendum to the report was presented, highlighting the following: · Whilst the Officers’ recommendation remained unchanged, Development Management Officers, in consultation with the Principal Environmental Health Officer, had drafted amended wording for conditions 9 and 10 in accordance with the Committee resolution of the 11 September, 2024 and expanded condition 9 to clarify monitoring requirements. In response, the applicant had stated that, whilst they had no concerns with the rewording of condition 9, they had requested further amendments to condition 10. Officers advised that, further amendments would need to be subject to a separate planning application in order to enable further consultation. • As the application was made under Section 73 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990, it would be necessary to re-impose any conditions on the original permission that were intended to have continued effect. Should Members be minded to reaffirm their resolution of the 11 September 2024, Officers recommended that conditions 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 13 and 14 be included in the new permission. It was also proposed to retain conditions 12 (landscaping) and 15 (earth banks and landscaping), but to reword them as the works referred to had already been undertaken, and to reword conditions 9 and 10 as above. In considering the above information, Members reaffirmed the resolution of the 11 September, 2024 to be minded to grant conditional planning permission, subject to the conditions referenced above. RESOLVED:- (a) That the Planning Committee be minded to grant conditional planning permission, subject to conditions highlighted above. (b) That the Development and Building Control Manager be authorised to determine the application under delegation. Note: Councillor Gwennol Ellis declared a personal interest in the above item. As the interest was not considered prejudicial Councillor Ellis remained in the meeting and took part in the debate.
Decision as recorded
RESOLVED: (a) That the Planning Committee be minded to grant conditional planning permission. (b) That, in accordance with approved procedure, the application be referred back to the next meeting of the Planning Committee for further consideration, as the resolution was contrary to officers’ recommendation.
Councillor Nigel Smith (Local Member for Kinmel Bay Ward) spoke in support of the application and made reference to housing need and Technical Advice Note (TAN) 15. An addendum to the report was presented, indicating the submission of amended plans. Officers raised no objection to the amended plans and considered them to be an improvement on those previously submitted. Councillor Kay Redhead (Local Member for Kinmel Bay Ward) stated that there had been no known flooding on the site for many years, there was demand for housing, there had been no objection from local residents and the site was currently derelict and overgrown. Contrary to the officers’ recommendation, the majority of Members were supportive of the application and were minded to grant conditional planning permission on the following grounds: · There was a need for housing within the County · There had been no known flooding within the locality and Technical Advice Note (TAN15) was advice only As the proposal was contrary to the officers’ recommendation, Members were informed that the application would be referred back to the next Planning Committee meeting for further consideration. RESOLVED: (a) That the Planning Committee be minded to grant conditional planning permission. (b) That, in accordance with approved procedure, the application be referred back to the next meeting of the Planning Committee for further consideration, as the resolution was contrary to officers’ recommendation.
Decision as recorded
RESOLVED:- (a) That the Planning Committee be minded to grant conditional planning permission. (b) That the Development and Building Control Manager be authorised to determine the application under delegation. Councillors Ifor Lloyd and Chris Cater, declared a personal interest in the above item. As the interest was considered prejudicial Councillors Lloyd and Cater left the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed. Councillor Gwennol Ellis declared a personal interest in the above item. As the interest was not considered prejudicial Councillor Ellis remained in the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed. In the interest of transparency, the Solicitor, Rachael Jones, declared a personal interest in the above item. As the interest was considered prejudicial Ms Jones left the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed and Matthew Georgiou (Head of Law and Governance) took over proceedings for this item only.
Ms Elaine Evans spoke against the application as did Councillor Carol Beard (Local Member for the Penrhyn Bay) on behalf of local residents. Reference was made to the following: • The close proximity and loss of amenity to neighbouring properties • Noise concerns • Light pollution • Detrimental effect on the quality of life of neighbouring residents • Loss of privacy to some neighbouring dwellings • Possible increase in anti-social behaviour • Detrimental impact on ecology • Concern was expressed regarding the materials used on the all-weather pitch Councillor Julie Fallon (Cabinet Member for Education) spoke in favour of the application and highlighted the benefits to the school (it was currently the only secondary school in the County without an all-weather facility), the benefits to external users and stated that mitigation measures had been included within the design to account for noise etc. in the form of screening and landscaping. Following the Committee site visit, officers provided the following information: · The proposed 2m high landscaped earthed mounds along the northern and eastern sides of the pitch were approximately 12m in width · The existing street lighting columns along the footpath on the eastern side of the site were approximately 5m in height, with LEDs 19 - 27 watt output · The existing rugby/football posts on the sports pitch were between 6.4m and 7.32m high An addendum to the report was presented, highlighting the following: • Natural Resource Wales (NRW) had reiterated their previous comments and had no further comments to make. • A total of 567 objections had been received and 39 letters of support, including two petitions in support of the scheme with a total of 28 signatures. In considering the application, Members made reference to the following: • The need for such a facility • The benefits to the children and their well-being • Reference was made to the all-weather surface, alternative surfaces, trials and European legislation • Amending proposed opening times - it was acknowledged such an amendment would impact on community use and financial viability • The position of the pitch and possible alternative locations. In response the Strategic Manager, Property and Site Management – Education Services advised Members that much consideration had gone into the location of the pitch for both the neighbouring residents and the school. RESOLVED:- (a) That the Planning Committee be minded to grant conditional planning permission. (b) That the Development and Building Control Manager be authorised to determine the application under delegation. Councillors Ifor Lloyd and Chris Cater, declared a personal interest in the above item. As the interest was considered prejudicial Councillors Lloyd and Cater left the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed. Councillor Gwennol Ellis declared a personal interest in the above item. As the interest was not considered prejudicial Councillor Ellis remained in the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed. In the interest of transparency, the Solicitor, Rachael Jones, declared a personal interest in the above item. As the interest was considered prejudicial Ms Jones left the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed and Matthew Georgiou (Head of Law and Governance) took over proceedings for this item only.
Decision as recorded
RESOLVED: (a) That the Planning Committee be minded to grant conditional planning permission. (b) That, in accordance with approved procedure, the application be referred back to the next meeting of the Planning Committee for further consideration, as the resolution was contrary to officers’ recommendation. Note: Councillor Nia Owen declared a personal interest in the above item. As the interest was considered prejudicial Councillor Owen left the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed. Note: Councillor Aaron Wynne, who had registered to speak in relation to the application, declared a personal interest in the above item. As Councillor Wynne was not a Member of the Planning Committee, the interest was not considered prejudicial, therefore, Councillor Wynne was able to speak as Local Member in regards to the application.
Further to a site inspection, Mr Osian Deiniol spoke in favour of the application on behalf of the applicant. Councillor Aaron Wynne (Local Member for Llanrwst and Llanddoged Ward) also spoke in support of the application. Contrary to the officers’ recommendation, the majority of Members were supportive of the application and were minded to grant conditional planning permission on the following grounds: · The proposal was in accordance with Technical Advice Note (TAN) 6 · The proposal would protect the Welsh language, the community of Llanrwst and the future generations of Llanrwst · The proposal would ensure the sustainability of a local business and employment for local people As the proposal was contrary to the officers’ recommendation, Members were informed that the application would be referred back to the next Planning Committee meeting for further consideration. RESOLVED: (a) That the Planning Committee be minded to grant conditional planning permission. (b) That, in accordance with approved procedure, the application be referred back to the next meeting of the Planning Committee for further consideration, as the resolution was contrary to officers’ recommendation. Note: Councillor Nia Owen declared a personal interest in the above item. As the interest was considered prejudicial Councillor Owen left the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed. Note: Councillor Aaron Wynne, who had registered to speak in relation to the application, declared a personal interest in the above item. As Councillor Wynne was not a Member of the Planning Committee, the interest was not considered prejudicial, therefore, Councillor Wynne was able to speak as Local Member in regards to the application.
Decision as recorded
RESOLVED:- (a) That the Planning Committee be minded to grant conditional planning permission. (b) That the Development and Building Control Manager be authorised to determine the application under delegation. Note: Councillors Jo Nuttall and David Carr declared a personal interest in the above item. As the interest was considered prejudicial Councillor Nuttall and Carr left the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed.
An addendum to the report was presented, highlighting the following: • The submission of amended plans • Additional information regards to sustainable drainage systems (SUDs) • Observations from consultees Officers raised no objection to the amended plans and considered them to be an improvement on those previously proposed. In addition, additional surface water drainage was not considered necessary on this occasion. Members were supportive of the application. RESOLVED:- (a) That the Planning Committee be minded to grant conditional planning permission. (b) That the Development and Building Control Manager be authorised to determine the application under delegation. Note: Councillors Jo Nuttall and David Carr declared a personal interest in the above item. As the interest was considered prejudicial Councillor Nuttall and Carr left the meeting whilst the matter was being discussed.
Decision as recorded
RESOLVED: (a) That the Planning Committee be minded to grant conditional planning permission. (b) That, in accordance with approved procedure, the application be referred back to the next meeting of the Planning Committee for further consideration, as the resolution was contrary to officers’ recommendation.
The Principal Planning Officer advised that, unlike previous applications considered by the Committee, this particular application had no means of refuge in an extreme flood event as the proposal was on the ground floor. In considering the application, a Local Member provided some background to the site, stated that there had been no known flooding within the locality for some time and that the need for housing in the area was high. In addition, it was noted that, flats both next door to the application site and opposite were also on the ground floor level. Contrary to the officers’ recommendation, the majority of Members were supportive of the application and were minded to grant conditional planning permission on the basis that the proposal would deliver housing in an area of housing need. As the proposal was contrary to the officers’ recommendation, Members were informed that the application would be referred back to the next Planning Committee meeting for further consideration. RESOLVED: (a) That the Planning Committee be minded to grant conditional planning permission. (b) That, in accordance with approved procedure, the application be referred back to the next meeting of the Planning Committee for further consideration, as the resolution was contrary to officers’ recommendation.
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